Range and charging rate.

[Rei]

That is pretty bad, I'm disappointed. If what they said when it launched about 20 minutes to 80% and a decent battery capacity was accurate it would have been fine but it looks like it got nerfed somewhere along the way.

[Reuben80]

Why 28kWh? It should be 32kWh out of 35kWh

[ilscoupe]

After watching almost the entire 11 hours (!) of Bjørn Nyland‘s 660 km drive yesterday, it appears my fear about the range and charge rate are all true.

For a manufacturer to come this late to the EV party and only then up with a “rapid” charge ability of < 50 kW only up to 20%, then much less after, is piss poor.

As for the usable battery capacity only being around 28 kWh, and then is you drive at motorway speeds, thermal impact drops it to around 25 kWh, OMG!!!

Yes, same here. especially when monthly costs are very close between Tesla 3 and Honda e ( albeit honda e for 3 years of payments vs tesla 3 for 4 years of paymments)

[Rei]

Yes, same here. especially when monthly costs are very close between Tesla 3 and Honda e ( albeit honda e for 3 years of payments vs tesla 3 for 4 years of paymments)

Where is that? The cheapest Model 3 here is a lot more than an Honda e last time I looked.

[ilscoupe]

Yes, same here. especially when monthly costs are very close between Tesla 3 and Honda e ( albeit honda e for 3 years of payments vs tesla 3 for 4 years of paymments)

Where is that? The cheapest Model 3 here is a lot more than an Honda e last time I looked.

Ref:

https://ev-database.uk/car/1233/Honda-e-Advance

https://ev-database.uk/car/1177/Tesla-M ... Range-Plus

Model 3 over 4 years, base model £3k down, 48 months, 10,000 miles personal contract hire: £455/mo ( tesla.com/en_GB )
Honda e over *3* years, Advance, some nice additional kit, £430 per month, 37 monthly payments

Yes I know that's a whole year of difference in payments, but if you're budgeting for an ongoing monthly outlay then there's negligible cost differential

[Rei]

You won't find anywhere offering a Model 3 for close to 455/month. With your example Tesla finance is £555/month. I think you had the deposit at £6,000.



Here's a post I made on another forum:

I compared PCP finance. 36/37 months, 10k miles, no deposit.

Honda e £436
Honda e Advance £496
Tesla M3 SR+ £748
Tesla M3 SR+ Evezy £799

That's without paint. The Honda e paint is £550, Tesla's ranges from £1000 to £2000. Evezy includes servicing, insurance and 12k miles.

Insurance groups:

Honda e 25
Honda e Advance 29
Tesla M3 48

Model 3 insurance is going to be way higher than the Honda e, obviously how much depends on the driver.

[ilscoupe]

I compared PCP finance. 36/37 months, 10k miles, no deposit.

Honda e £436
Honda e Advance £496
Tesla M3 SR+ £748
Tesla M3 SR+ Evezy £799

That's without paint. The Honda e paint is £550, Tesla's ranges from £1000 to £2000. Evezy includes servicing, insurance and 12k miles.

Insurance groups:

Honda e 25
Honda e Advance 29
Tesla M3 48

Model 3 insurance is going to be way higher than the Honda e, obviously how much depends on the driver.

Select the option on Tesla site of "Personal Contract Hire", not PCP finance.

[rickwookie]

Why 28kWh? It should be 32kWh out of 35kWh

Nyland drove it 660 km charging along the way (something like 9 times I think) and each time you could see the percent remaining when he starts a charge plus the amount of “charge until full” indicated does indeed suggest it will only allow 28 kWh to be used at best.

He did a range and charging test before the long trip too which yielded the same figures apparently, although he’s yet to upload it to YouTube.

[Rei]

I compared PCP finance. 36/37 months, 10k miles, no deposit.

Honda e £436
Honda e Advance £496
Tesla M3 SR+ £748
Tesla M3 SR+ Evezy £799

That's without paint. The Honda e paint is £550, Tesla's ranges from £1000 to £2000. Evezy includes servicing, insurance and 12k miles.

Insurance groups:

Honda e 25
Honda e Advance 29
Tesla M3 48

Model 3 insurance is going to be way higher than the Honda e, obviously how much depends on the driver.

Select the option on Tesla site of "Personal Contract Hire", not PCP finance.

593/month but you have nothing at the end so the real cost is much higher.

[ilscoupe]

As stated earlier, price if you have a monthly ongoing budget is comparable. Not sure what buttons you're pushing to get the numbers you mention, or why exactly you feel the need to be contradicting what I originally stated as an opinion. #internet I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯