Re: Plug-in grant (PICG) reduced to £1500 Cars (previously ‘category 1’)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:22 pm
SamH, TerryR: I heard from the dealer end December to say our e would be delivered to them next week, reg'd then and available for us a couple of days later. Expecting Huk to confirm such, yesterday they indicated that the availability/reg of the e's is more likely to be known by the dealer (than them) - a bit puzzling, as the original delay was 'ordered' by Huk. maybe Honda's internal comms aren't yet fully up-to-speed post new-year. If the car arrives at the dealer on the now-expected (?!?) date of 12 Jan, I'll let you know (they'll let me know for sure, in the form of an invoice!)
TerryR: I doubt very much the reg delay applies to any vehicles other than the e: I think ( I may be wrong) the 'issue' is that the ev 'super-credits' arrangement regarding the manufacturers 'whole fleet' emissions is winding-down this/next year - each ev sold has a reduced super-credit value of 1.33 this year. I think H 'made their quota' of ev sales offsets last year, hence any e's that were initially intended to be sold post-quota-satisfaction in late 2021, have been shifted to 2022. Given that the financial penalty for exceeding the steadily-reducing threshold of permissible CO2 vehicle emissions is quite expensive, it makes sense to do that. What i don't quite get is why April is being discussed:- the 'emissions' year is calendar, beginning Jan 1. Perhaps there is an additional UK hiccup/complication introduced by the UK tax year (?)
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... l-vehicles
ccp from above here:
‘Super-credits’ also apply for the registration of ultra-low emission vehicles (ULEVs) through to 2022. In 2020, any vehicle emitting less than 50g CO2/km will be counted as 2 vehicles; 1.67 vehicles in 2021; 1.33 vehicles in 2022 before the end of super-credits in 2023."
The driver (sorry) for manufacturers to produce (and sell) ev's is quite strong, given that this year the 'fine' for each gram-per-km exceedence of the pool limit is £86/vehicle - a strong incentive. I think that's how it works (in a very very slimmed-down effort at explanation!)
So ev's only.
atb - ttp
TerryR: I doubt very much the reg delay applies to any vehicles other than the e: I think ( I may be wrong) the 'issue' is that the ev 'super-credits' arrangement regarding the manufacturers 'whole fleet' emissions is winding-down this/next year - each ev sold has a reduced super-credit value of 1.33 this year. I think H 'made their quota' of ev sales offsets last year, hence any e's that were initially intended to be sold post-quota-satisfaction in late 2021, have been shifted to 2022. Given that the financial penalty for exceeding the steadily-reducing threshold of permissible CO2 vehicle emissions is quite expensive, it makes sense to do that. What i don't quite get is why April is being discussed:- the 'emissions' year is calendar, beginning Jan 1. Perhaps there is an additional UK hiccup/complication introduced by the UK tax year (?)
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... l-vehicles
ccp from above here:
‘Super-credits’ also apply for the registration of ultra-low emission vehicles (ULEVs) through to 2022. In 2020, any vehicle emitting less than 50g CO2/km will be counted as 2 vehicles; 1.67 vehicles in 2021; 1.33 vehicles in 2022 before the end of super-credits in 2023."
The driver (sorry) for manufacturers to produce (and sell) ev's is quite strong, given that this year the 'fine' for each gram-per-km exceedence of the pool limit is £86/vehicle - a strong incentive. I think that's how it works (in a very very slimmed-down effort at explanation!)
So ev's only.
atb - ttp