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turntoport
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Post by turntoport » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:23 am

What was it that you found to be tripe, Londimiumperson? The author's typically journalistic flowery writing style, or the (ok, old and lacking detail & accuracy) sales numbers and Tesla pooling comments? I, for one, didn't know Honda were contributing to Musk's profits until i searched the super-credit area and found articles similar to that. The issue we seem to have is that journo's have evolved into word-manipulating headline-grabbers, but often with little effort expended on understanding or presenting the core details of the story. And so we see such stuff as QAnon...

The point of posting the link was so a few people that may not have your level of knowledge of the ev market - particularly wrt the Honda e - can gain even the tiniest improvement insight-wise, into why such things as e deliveries may have been/are being 'held back'. Of course, there may be other reasons, but I haven't seen much evidence, circumstantial, material or hypothesised, as to what those are, have you?

Anyway, i love your enthusiasm (and knowledge!). Collecting ours Monday.

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Post by londiniumperson » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:35 pm

I was harsh, they’re were some very valid points he made. What got my goat was where he states a couple of times that the Zoe & Honda are a similar price. Well in the UK (which is in Europe where he was making the comparison) the Honda is significantly more expensive. Though admittedly this is the whole crux of his article with the Honda’s price.
I’ve re read it and he does make some valid points namely that Honda need to reduce its price if it’s to sell, however he should know that under the old Honda CEO they had no intention building BEVs they were and still are to a major extent hell bent on selling Hybrids.
Also he does highlight us to the emissions credit pool. The reason Honda had only sold 1000 Honda e’s is because Honda limited the supply and kept prices high.
This fundamental reason for this is MONEY, too many influential people with interests in the oil industry are dictating the direction of this whole fiasco of electrification.
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Post by turntoport » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:46 pm

Hi Londiniumperson; yeah, most of the author's flowery guff was journotripe, for sure, and agree with all the points re e sales. Do you think H made a booboo when choosing to limit the battery capacity to 35kWh, having 'decided' it was a city car they were going to build so didn't need more? One wonders what the sales figures would be if the capacity was 50kWh, circa 200 miles. Ok the car would be heavier and maybe slightly longer...

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Post by Terry R » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:22 pm

Just been informed that my car is now at the dealers. Picking up next week.

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Post by FMIB » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:55 pm

Good news on the car, enjoy the experience.

I thought the Honda situation was bad enough, this week I drove to a Volvo dealer to look to buy a car that was advertised on the dealers website as well as Volvo's main site as an available stock car. On arriving the salesman said sorry, we are not allowed to sell the car unless we can replace it, but we have one coming in around May, in a different spec and colour which you can reserve!
A bit lost for words, a wasted trip, so I went to another dealer, first asking if they can sell me a stock car, which of course they said yes and that's what I did with delivery by Friday.

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Post by EEEE » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:56 am

FMIB wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:55 pm
Good news on the car, enjoy the experience.

I thought the Honda situation was bad enough, this week I drove to a Volvo dealer to look to buy a car that was advertised on the dealers website as well as Volvo's main site as an available stock car. On arriving the salesman said sorry, we are not allowed to sell the car unless we can replace it, but we have one coming in around May, in a different spec and colour which you can reserve!
A bit lost for words, a wasted trip, so I went to another dealer, first asking if they can sell me a stock car, which of course they said yes and that's what I did with delivery by Friday.
This was almost the experience i had with the 'e' at orpington honda. car was described as 'ex demostrator' , go to view it and buy it, told might not be available until they get a new one to replace it and it could be a couple of months. Told them i need it now, they go away and chat, magically it's now available. Car dealerships are just about the worst retail experience ive ever had - even when the people are helpful and the outcome is good.

Might just stick to buying sub £1k cars - quick and easy and probably get a better cup of tea out of it too and a better chat!

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