Pathetic 3 year warranty

iHansz · Post by **iHansz** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:50 am

In the Dutch e brochure: "Does the Honda e battery have a warranty? Yes. The Honda e batteries come with a generous warranty of 8 years or 160,000 kilometers, so you can always hit the road with peace of mind."

RAL7004 · Post by **RAL7004** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:03 pm

Same in Germany (no wonder, it's Europe):

Saucebox · Post by **Saucebox** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:08 pm

Yes, it's the same in GB. As I said previously, Honda's 3-year warranty applies to the car itself.

bogga · Post by **bogga** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:09 pm

iHansz wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:50 am In the Dutch e brochure: "Does the Honda e battery have a warranty? Yes. The Honda e batteries come with a generous warranty of 8 years or 160,000 kilometers, so you can always hit the road with peace of mind."

Yes, but what are the terms and conditions? Does it need to have had Honda servicing? Does it mean the battery should still have a SoC of 100% after 8 years? Or 90% or 80% or 70%?

RAL7004 · Post by **RAL7004** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:12 pm

Good point: Honda Germany refers to the dealer. The dealer told me: minimum capacity of 70% when compared to the original status. However, he usually has little information..

iHansz · Post by **iHansz** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:19 pm

Whatever warranty conditions apply, for example that of Kia or Honda, the car must always have had its regular service at an official dealer. And that will also apply to the battery. How much remains after 8 years for example, cannot be said now, I think. In my Honda CR-Z there is also a (small) lithium-ion battery, which is now 7 years old and still has 90% of his capacity. Well I can't charge it via a home plug, but still gives me enough confidence.

keithr · Post by **keithr** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:14 pm

eread wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:40 am I love and normally acquire the jap cars - because of their reliability Hyundai, Kia, etc.

I'm confused.

You say you love and normally own Japanese cars, but then stick "Hyundai, Kia, etc." on the end of the sentence. Do you realise that Hyundai and Kia are South Korean car companies?

bogga · Post by **bogga** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:18 pm

70% would be a range of 61 miles at 323 watts per mile, assumig the starting battery capacity was 28.5 kwh, which starts to look a little sad.

bogga · Post by **bogga** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:51 pm

So just got back from the dealer, after asking my battery questions... and the answer puzzles me... they said that the battery had a 8 year warranty (or 100,000 miles), with no battery degradation, yes... no battery degradation..

Does he have the wrong information, or are Honda that confident, or they have that much extra capacity in them? The interwebs tell me thatn Li-Ion batteries lose about 2.3% every year just due to aging, that would mean from 35.5kw after 8 years there would be: 29.47... So that fits.

Start 35.5
1 34.68
2 33.89
3 33.11
4 32.34
5 31.60
6 30.87
7 30.16
8 29.47

bogga · Post by **bogga** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:25 pm

Update......... I've got a brochure...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/z ... zyYzcvyVov

...and it's not as the dealer suggests, it's 70% SOC after 8 years or 100,000.

That does not give me piece of mind, it means I have ordered a short range car that can turn into a VERY short range car, without any recourse.

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