Home chargers

[RAL7004]

Is that even including installation?!

I fear: no!

[londiniumperson]

There are three models to choose from:

Honda Power Charger
Allows a charging capacity of up to 22 kW for faster charging at home. Up to 22 kW three-phase / 7.4 kW single-phase.

Honda Power Charger S
In addition to the functions of the Honda Power Charger, this device offers an intelligent charging function as well as setting up user authorisations and integration into smart home technologies via UDP.

Honda Power Charger S+
This charger with "first-class specifications" offers all the functions of the other two models and also solutions for e-mobility such as local load management with the Power Charger S+ serving as a communication centre or with an external electricity meter via Modbus TCP.

Not even sure the standard (non S or S+) option would even qualify for the UK OLEV grant anyway if it lacks an "intelligent charging function". That means the cheapest realistic offering is €1900! Is that even including installation?!

I think I'll pass.

It appears that the "intelligent charging function"which the government states which the chargers must have to be valid for the OLEV grant is misunderstood by most people.

This does not mean being able to set the time when the EV is charged by the user/owner, however it's the ability for the DNO (electricity supplier) to be able to restrict the current draw from the grid so that they e balance it as they see fit.

There's not enough information available whether or not the Honda chargers will conform, however it is very likely that they will.

[londiniumperson]

Is that even including installation?!

I fear: no!

There's so little information being provided by Honda that it's all speculation at the moment.
However I also suspect that those prices are excluding installation.

[eread]

Honda Power Charger
Allows a charging capacity of up to 22 kW for faster charging at home. Up to 22 kW three-phase / 7.4 kW single-phase.

So... nobody is going to question why Honda is selling a 22 kW charger when the E only supports 6.6kw?

The Honda e is fitted with an 6.6 kW on-board charger for Type 2 AC charging, in addition to rapid 100 kW DC capability. This means that even when connected to a fast charger with a rated output above 6.6 kW, the Honda e will only be able to charge at 6.6 kW.

[rickwookie]

Honda Power Charger
Allows a charging capacity of up to 22 kW for faster charging at home. Up to 22 kW three-phase / 7.4 kW single-phase.

So... nobody is going to question why Honda is selling a 22 kW charger when the E only supports 6.6kw?

The Honda e is fitted with an 6.6 kW on-board charger for Type 2 AC charging, in addition to rapid 100 kW DC capability. This means that even when connected to a fast charger with a rated output above 6.6 kW, the Honda e will only be able to charge at 6.6 kW.

Not really. I expect it's because it's really easy to do, and it makes the device have a broader appeal than just to e owners.

[eread]

Honda Power Charger
Allows a charging capacity of up to 22 kW for faster charging at home. Up to 22 kW three-phase / 7.4 kW single-phase.

So... nobody is going to question why Honda is selling a 22 kW charger when the E only supports 6.6kw?

The Honda e is fitted with an 6.6 kW on-board charger for Type 2 AC charging, in addition to rapid 100 kW DC capability. This means that even when connected to a fast charger with a rated output above 6.6 kW, the Honda e will only be able to charge at 6.6 kW.

Not really. I expect it's because it's really easy to do, and it makes the device have a broader appeal than just to e owners.

Good thought, people might have a Zoe that can make use of it didn't think about that

[rickwookie]

So... nobody is going to question why Honda is selling a 22 kW charger when the E only supports 6.6kw?

Not really. I expect it's because it's really easy to do, and it makes the device have a broader appeal than just to e owners.

Good thought, people might have a Zoe that can make use of it didn't think about that

When I was considering whether or not to even investigate upgrading my house to 3-phase (since I'll have 2 or more EVs here maybe some day!), I quickly realised that it's pretty much only the Zoe now that actually has an on-board 3-phase charger of any sensible capacity (32 Amp). I think single phase inverters are probably so much cheaper and lighter (the car has to lug the thing around permanently after all) than the 3-phase equivalents that it makes much more sense to focus on Rapid DC for high-speed charging going forward. Apart from that, the silly money that UK Power Networks want to sling a 3-phase cable a few meters from under the pavement to the house is bonkers.
However, any commercial property that installs one, for example for staff car parks, may as well have a 3-phase capable device.

[As27@talktalk.net]

Honda e now on OLEV grant list.. Not sure when this appeared but had an email from Podpoint earlier in the weeks saying that it was not currently on the OLEV list....just checked and it seems to be there now, Hopefully can get Podpoint to fit charger inc grant .

[kbjpick]

I gave up on trying to get more substantive info on Honda chargers and had a BPChargemaster installed 16/7/20 for £549. Took < 2hours and witnessed test of unit via a 'load test', given we had not a car to plug in! Competent installation.

Reserve.honda.co.uk advice still not updated since ordering in February. Advised on Thursday that car IS here but will wait until early September to take delivery due to holidays et al. Delivery WAS promised for July, then early August, then mid September - and now it is here!!

[As27@talktalk.net]

Nice one kbjpick, Hopefully it'll be worth the wait I'm told mine definitely delivery 20/08 to the dealer so I will wat until September for collection.. Im lucky to have free charging at work, so ill take full advantage and hopefully get the home charger eventually. looking forward to a few collections in September it seems