All-season tire reccomendations

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Recomended generally are Michelin Crossclimate 2 and Continental EcoContact 6, both of these have 205/55 R 16 91V for the rear wheels fine - but nearest is 185/55R16 83V and 185/55R16 87H respectively for the front instead of the manual spec 185/60R16 86H.

Would this reduction in tread width be a problem? Invalidate warantee or insurance for example?

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5thcivic wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:47 pm Would this reduction in tread width be a problem? Invalidate warantee or insurance for example?
In your specific case, it would not be a problem, because the deviation is just barely within accepted limits of -3% to +4% (or +5% for winter tires).

It's very common that people choose (slightly) different tires. Sometimes because they like the esthetics better, or availability, or something else.

However, there are limits, because different tires cause different circumferences. And if the circumference would be too far off, your car will not be able to indicate the correct speed anymore. I would want to stay as close to the originals circumference as possible, maybe a tiny bit larger to compensate for the speedometer already being a bit off.
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Thanks, can I ask why you chose 195/55 as your front 16ins?
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5thcivic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:28 am Thanks, can I ask why you chose 195/55 as your front 16ins?
Well, in my case it was not so much of a conscious choice for a specific tire size, but more a process of elimination.

Based on the tire specification, I made a list of all the allowed tire sizes by using a tire calculator. And I did that for both the front and the back.

Then I looked up all the brands that had good all-season tires. But not all brands produce all sizes, so that way you can eliminate those sizes from your list.

After that I looked at the qualitative aspects of each of the remaining tires, such as grip, rolling resistance, etc. That removed the rest and left me with the 195/55 on the front.

However, if you do this same process for another brand, it's very well possible that your best option might be different size. One size isn't necessarily better or worse than another size, as long as you stay within the allowed limits.

I can go through it if you want, just let me know the brand. πŸ˜„
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Thanks, that's worth knowing. 5 Civics later and I never needed to buy tyres before swapping, but the E is a keeper for me so will be a factor at some time.
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hondaeboy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:01 am
vulgaris_magistralis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:24 pm I want good tires on my car and my research is leading me to Michelin Crossclimate 2. Anybody has any experience with those? Or any other reccomendations?
Yes, actually considered those as well. I hated the original tires, especially since the car came with two different types of tyres for the front and back (and weird brands at that). Because the dimensions were a little off, there were also not that many alternatives, if any.

I ultimately went with the ones that fit under there, that were of the same brand, that were relatively good in any most weather conditions, while also have all the mountain and show icons, the lowest rolling resistance, and be relatively quiet. But it's a difficult search. It's also that some tyres are not readily available, so that also limits your options sometimes.

- Goodyear 4 Seasons GEN-3 195/55 E16 91H XL (front)
EPREL: 578811/578812/578833
EAN: 4038526043351

- Goodyear 4 Seasons GEN-3 205/55 E16 94V XL (back)
EPREL: 577739/578689/578810/588335/588336/588337
EAN: 4038526043337

So far I love them, and the energy efficiency actually exceeded my expectations.
Great to hear feedback from NL which will the most relevant input for me! Also thanks for putting down the exact model numbers, I wouldn't be able to find those on my own. I have 2 questions:
1- (asking out of ignorance) Would those models you put in fit my stock 16'' rims?
2- What made you stray away from Michelin Crossclimate2s?
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hondaeboy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:07 am It's very common that people choose (slightly) different tires. Sometimes because they like the esthetics better, or availability, or something else.
I generally tend to go for a 5-10mm wider tracked tired than standard, just to protect my rims from kerb rash a little better. Always have done for the 22 years I've been driving.

Given the e has 205/45 front and 225/45 rear on the stock 17" rims, I might end up going with a 215 front 235 rear setup when I come to change to all season CrossClimate 2s from the current Pilot Sport 4s.

Should always maintain the same profile though, so as not to change the overall diameter and circumference of the wheel, which throws the speedo, range, and range projection out marginally.

That said, looking at the tires, the sidewalls seems to have enough meat on them already to protect the rims, so I might just end up sticking with the stock sizes. Haven't really thought that far ahead yet.
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vulgaris_magistralis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:34 pm Great to hear feedback from NL which will the most relevant input for me! Also thanks for putting down the exact model numbers, I wouldn't be able to find those on my own. I have 2 questions:
1- (asking out of ignorance) Would those models you put in fit my stock 16'' rims?
2- What made you stray away from Michelin Crossclimate2s?
1. Oh, I would say so, but always check. I don't have stock 16" rims, but the ones I do have are - I believe - the exact same size, as they were specifically made for the E.

2. It wasn't so much straying away from Michelin Cross Climates. They were a good second, but I can only put one type of tyre on my car at a time. :lol: I think I didn't go for the CrossClimates because the energy efficiency was (only slightly) less, but they were a bit quieter. I had these on my list:

For the front I found the one option:
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE+ 195/55 E16 91V XL (EPREL # 481815)

For the back there might be several options:
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 170766)
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 TV - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 721652)
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 S1 - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 994638)
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE+ S1 - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 388179)

Do always check with the garage or your dealer, if they really are appropriate though or good enough (or affordable enough haha). I only wrote them down as options, but I didn't check them properly, because I didn't choose them in the end.
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Verone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:52 pm I generally tend to go for a 5-10mm wider tracked tired than standard, just to protect my rims from kerb rash a little better. Always have done for the 22 years I've been driving.
Oh, yeah, same. With all my previous cars I would scrape and scratch the shit out of my tyres and rims. For some reasons NOTHING with the E so far, and I've been really driving a lot with it. But I have to admit I've been (mis)using the birds eye view parking camera to park along the curb, and make sure I'm not hitting anything. Perfect!
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hondaeboy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:10 am
vulgaris_magistralis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:34 pm Great to hear feedback from NL which will the most relevant input for me! Also thanks for putting down the exact model numbers, I wouldn't be able to find those on my own. I have 2 questions:
1- (asking out of ignorance) Would those models you put in fit my stock 16'' rims?
2- What made you stray away from Michelin Crossclimate2s?
1. Oh, I would say so, but always check. I don't have stock 16" rims, but the ones I do have are - I believe - the exact same size, as they were specifically made for the E.

2. It wasn't so much straying away from Michelin Cross Climates. They were a good second, but I can only put one type of tyre on my car at a time. :lol: I think I didn't go for the CrossClimates because the energy efficiency was (only slightly) less, but they were a bit quieter. I had these on my list:

For the front I found the one option:
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE+ 195/55 E16 91V XL (EPREL # 481815)

For the back there might be several options:
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 170766)
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 TV - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 721652)
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 S1 - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 994638)
- MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE+ S1 - 205/55 E16 94V XL (EPREL # 388179)

Do always check with the garage or your dealer, if they really are appropriate though or good enough (or affordable enough haha). I only wrote them down as options, but I didn't check them properly, because I didn't choose them in the end.
Thanks again! But you kinda talked me into the Goodyears :D I'm going to go with that. Can I ask where did you buy and get yours installed?
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